Victoria: Broad area of low pressure - November 19th-25th 2009.

BTW one question for our farmer types. Is this rain causing problems for crops? Getting 25-50mm of rain and humid conditions on mature wheat etc can't be good (I know it can cause sprouting etc). Is currently pouring rain out in parts of the Wimmera etc.

Also.... EC/GFS/ has a follow up rain event as the current upper trough goes north and then does an anticlockwise loop around Australia coming back to Victoria on Thursday. EC has a follow-up 80mm for us (anyone wana start the new thread?).

67mm here in hawthorn, can I break 100mm for the system?

Thats great for Hawthorn, good to have a report from the inner east. Do you have a year to date total?

What an amazing event for Melbourne and the surrounding areas. Just in the nick of time too, it was pretty dry heading out to Mt Macedon yesterday, still green from Gap Hill on though which is lucky.
Think of all those poor Melbourne trees that are enjoying their first decent drink for ages

wow what rainfall figures!

The CS weather site stopped recording rainfall at 2.05am and by then we had had 26.4mm. I know we have had more since then! Looking at suburbs around me, the Airport has had 55.6mm, 50.2mm at Essendon, Laverton at 34.8mm, so I will guess somewhere in the 40mm range would be about what we got. I am going to go for a drive to see how Kororoit Creek has fared in all this....it has the ability to getquite overwhelmed at times when rainfall like this occurs, but then at other times it doesn't get affected at all. But with very high rainfall amounts near Gisborne, I wonder if by this afternoon, the creek will rise dramatically!

74.4mm so far in Trentham!!!!!!!

26mm here so very happy, got my 20mm I wanted. Currently heavy drizzle with heavy rain embbeded. Don't know if I will get much here but damn, it's good to here rain again.

Rhino.

Thats an awesome drop there Jane...and still a few more hours to go, you might crack the ton!

That band looks good west of Melbourne

Just 32mm so far Jane, but good enough for me as the tanks are full again, any more is just a waste . Going to take a trip over your way this arvo, want to see how much water is on my block in Blue Mount, have an idea for a water feature/moat at the moment

Yes ILS..the band west of Melbourne is starting to really drop and edging Eastward at the same time...suspect a few hours of more heavy rain and then into the Southerly..

My Rain gauge only goes to 45mm and it's well past that. Be guessing at 55mm overnight. Great result and the towels and buckets held out for me.

Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions everyone. The leak is only a recent thing, and this is the 1st event that it has been a problem, so now I know what is going on I can get the estate agent to actually do something, and I will attach that photo to the email, as has been suggested it is guaranteed to get a quick result.

Enjoy the day people, nothing better than a nice wet Sunday.

Anthony Violi wrote:Yes ILS..the band west of Melbourne is starting to really drop and edging Eastward at the same time...suspect a few hours of more heavy rain and then into the Southerly..

Yes I just noticed that, I wonder if it could organise further into a line of storms, I will not write anything off in this event

It's looking good, but depends how far north it extends for us to get it here. Lilydale has missed everything so far.

Well ILS this is where the maximum instability should be in theory, close to the upper level low. Looking like another pounding shortly for the city..

I_Love_Storms wrote:

Anthony Violi wrote:Yes ILS..the band west of Melbourne is starting to really drop and edging Eastward at the same time...suspect a few hours of more heavy rain and then into the Southerly..

Yes I just noticed that, I wonder if it could organise further into a line of storms, I will not write anything off in this event

It's looking good, but depends how far north it extends for us to get it here. Lilydale has missed everything so far.

Looking very meaty, I hope it can spread out and track a tad more W

Some nice pressure drops in the last hour as the trough moves in from the west with a nice band associated with it, should see some more nice falls.

Great to see the rain, the lemon tree in the backyard I also hacked to death about a week before the heatwave has started to sprout new growth

Nick

Just went for a quick drive to the usual spots around Blackbutrn & Box Hill. Conditions not too bad, just a good prolonged soaking, not much debris on the roads. Sparks Reserve is filling as fast as possible. I've see that place full with the water half way over the walkway (pic 5).

You're not wrong about pressure drops Nick!!
Many areas down 2.5hPa in 15 minutes

Great shots sniper, that band is widening and you can see the beginning of rotation on radar now too. It's not lightning active though.

53mm so far hooray!! Nice work Windy, great total. Radar looks great for more.

Not my finest mate, but you get the idea hey
What's going on with you Avatar? Seems to be distorting?
That band is meaty and if the radar is underestimating, could well be 30mm falls in the hour. Will be keen to see Ballarat' obs in the next 30 mins!!

Edit: Fiesty little storm barged thru Yarrawonga, direct hit. This line in front of the band may get lightning active, it is very unstable out there with these fast dropping pressures.

Nice guys..glad to report we have had about 34mm of rain here. Puddles everywhere!!! Clearing at the moment but looks like we may get some more with the second band coming through. Wedding yesterday in Melton and was very humid at the ceremony at 3.30pm and bucketed down with rain at about 5.30pm when I left home, never stopped and was a glorious sounds to listen to once at home with the French Doors open in the bedroom (no wind for once!! )

Sounds like people got some very good totals of rain, I am hoping that the catchments copped some good heavy falls overnight and today

Am I reading this right? 56mm in Melbourne Airport. I have not seen that figure at Melbourne Airport in ages.

Just took the 9am obs. 50.4mm in the gauge so very happy. Event up to 54mm - 4mm than I was hoping so from here on it's all a bonus.

Looks like round 3 is about to start. Should be worth another 20mm (at least) up here and wouldn't be surprised to see another 50mm.

BTW here's the (current) to 9am top scorers. No 100mm falls officially but reckon it's pretty certain someone scored the ton between the gauges.



Station Sensor Station Rainfall Local Period Quality Create Basin Catchment State
Number Number Name (mm) Time (Days) Flag Time(UTC) Name Name
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587019 1 TOOLERN VALE 92.4 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:52 21-11-2009 WERRIBEE RIVER TOOLERN CR VIC
88071 1 BULLARTO SOUTH 69.6 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:05:57 21-11-2009 WERRIBEE RIVER LODDON RIV VIC
83085 0 MT HOTHAM AWS 65.2 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 As Observed Sat 22:00:10 21-11-2009 MITCHELL RIVER (VIC) VIC
586257 1 EUMEMMERING CK AT NARRE W 64.8 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:43 21-11-2009 BUNYIP RIVER EUMEMMERIN VIC
587014 1 BULLA (MW) 62.8 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:49 21-11-2009 MARIBYRNONG RIVER DEEP CREEK VIC
586199 1 BERWICK MW 60.0 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:36 21-11-2009 BUNYIP RIVER CARDINIA C VIC
587015 1 MARIBYRNONG R. AT MARIBYR 59.2 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:50 21-11-2009 MARIBYRNONG RIVER MARIBYRNON VIC
83084 0 FALLS CREEK AWS 58.8 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 As Observed Sat 22:02:01 21-11-2009 KIEWA RIVER KIEWA RIVE VIC
86282 2 MELBOURNE AP 56.0 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 As Observed Sat 22:06:52 21-11-2009 MARIBYRNONG RIVER MARIBYRNON VIC
83024 0 MT BULLER AWS 55.8 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 As Observed Sat 21:58:42 21-11-2009 GOULBURN RIVER VIC
83058 1 UPPER BUCKLAND 55.6 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:05:32 21-11-2009 OVENS RIVER BUCKLAND R VIC
586096 1 HAMPTON PARK 54.6 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:19 21-11-2009 BUNYIP RIVER HALLAM CON VIC
586200 1 MOONEE PONDS CK AT JACANA 54.6 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:37 21-11-2009 YARRA RIVER MOONEE PON VIC
586090 1 CARDINIA CK AT OFFICER 53.4 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:16 21-11-2009 BUNYIP RIVER CARDINIA C VIC
82105 1 CHESHUNT 53.2 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:05:20 21-11-2009 OVENS RIVER KING RIVER VIC
587004 1 SUNSHINE NORTH 52.8 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:47 21-11-2009 MARIBYRNONG RIVER MARIBYRNON VIC
586122 1 MARIBYRNONG RIVER AT KEIL 52.0 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:07:22 21-11-2009 MARIBYRNONG RIVER MARIBYRNON VIC
83073 2 MOUNT BUFFALO CHALET 51.0 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 Derived Obs Sat 22:05:33 21-11-2009 OVENS RIVER OVENS RIVE VIC
86038 0 ESSENDON AWS 50.4 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 As Observed Sat 22:01:16 21-11-2009 YARRA RIVER VIC
83010 0 EUROBIN 50.4 Sun 09:00:00 22-11-2009 1 As Observed Sat 22:04:08 21-11-2009 OVENS RIVER OVENS RIVE VIC

Dez wrote:Am I reading this right? 56mm in Melbourne Airport. I have not seen that figure at Melbourne Airport in ages.

Can't see why not.

Was it Rob Gell quoted last night saying 10 - 15mm for the city? Gee good call that. Any idiot with a basic understanding of the models and sat pcis etc could see we would get more than that.

GFS nailed this event, placed the heaviest falls to the NW of Melbourne, but underestimated the falls in most areas, except the Wimmera.