Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
GFS this morning keeps the instability over us right up until the change on Monday night...so going to be very active for a while though today and the weekend may see most of the action on the northern outskirts..
Anthony Violi- Posts : 256
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Depends how quickly and deep the seabreeze develops and how far it pushes inland. This will determine who gets what out here.
Slack steering will make chasing easy.
Slack steering will make chasing easy.
Karl Lijnders- Posts : 1472
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
A few thundery showers out near Ballarat and castlemaine meandering there way E to E/SE...early start!
Anthony Violi- Posts : 256
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
I expect those to intesify on the next few hours as heating increases
Shear should resolve more SE as the day goes on.
Shear should resolve more SE as the day goes on.
Karl Lijnders- Posts : 1472
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
And latest visual has the band of Accas all the way back through Western bass Strait past Mt G..
Anthony Violi- Posts : 256
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Am surprised to see the early showers around Macedon this morning. Didn't really expect anything in central areas today with the instability much better further north. Still think today is pretty marginal for us, but certainly a chance. Should see plenty of action to our northeast.
Should be some very photogenic storms out of this system, but I think rainfall totals will be patchy with hits/misses. There uppers are very warm and the surface trough is overlaid by a solid upper ridge. These situations typically give pretty isolated but slow moving storms.
Is getting really humid up here - DP up to 12C and been rising steadily.
BTW mesolaps suggests things will kick on overnight. Could be one of those event where storms don't follow the solar heating
(BTW the potential for a very hot day/night with this event is still evident. Kalgoorlie broke it's October and November minimum temperature record yesterday so some exceptionally hot air with this system and also 44.4C in Roebourne. Suspect cloud may cap things in Melbourne but further north and west it could be a different story)
Should be some very photogenic storms out of this system, but I think rainfall totals will be patchy with hits/misses. There uppers are very warm and the surface trough is overlaid by a solid upper ridge. These situations typically give pretty isolated but slow moving storms.
Is getting really humid up here - DP up to 12C and been rising steadily.
BTW mesolaps suggests things will kick on overnight. Could be one of those event where storms don't follow the solar heating
(BTW the potential for a very hot day/night with this event is still evident. Kalgoorlie broke it's October and November minimum temperature record yesterday so some exceptionally hot air with this system and also 44.4C in Roebourne. Suspect cloud may cap things in Melbourne but further north and west it could be a different story)
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
It is a certainty to rain here about 5pm as I'm hoping to finish some work out in the front garden tonight.
I saw some of that early cloud development in the distance while driving to work so it could be a very interesting afternoon.
I saw some of that early cloud development in the distance while driving to work so it could be a very interesting afternoon.
Melbourne Skywalker- Posts : 154
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
It's great to finally see a virtually stationary trough in Vic! I've only been here nearly 2 years.........
Will definitely be heading out after work tonight tomorrow avo knocking off early from work.
Can see the fibrous tops to my nw. Dp's already into double digits pretty much across the whole state,
no wonder we are seeing some activity this early.
Will definitely be heading out after work tonight tomorrow avo knocking off early from work.
Can see the fibrous tops to my nw. Dp's already into double digits pretty much across the whole state,
no wonder we are seeing some activity this early.
Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Im hopeing to head off around 2pm to chase. THinking Maryborough way atm, any other ideas or recomendations?
rikjpool- Posts : 124
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Hinzey commented to me that the nnw will have steeper lapse rates so you might not have to go too far Rikki.
I think any cells that get organized will be in open air, easy to see, slow moving. Way better chance tomorrow too
I think any cells that get organized will be in open air, easy to see, slow moving. Way better chance tomorrow too
Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
No to far meaning i can stay in Bendigo??? Or head north more towards Pyramid hill way? Anyway i'll prob play by eye. See whats happening around 2pm. It all depends on how big this truck is today and how long it takes to unload as to when i can head out...
rikjpool- Posts : 124
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
I think the next 4 days Rikki you wont have to go too far at all..good thing is clear air this morning allowing for heating and also to visual where storms are developing. Wait for the sounding and the BOM chart and see what they indicate..
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Looking good up north of Yarrawonga/ southern central NSW atm, wish I had these next few days in the dong.
Been taking pics of the high Ac here at work (broady). Obs have been good for this hazy day, also seeing the development towards Ballarat/NW up on the obs deck.
Been taking pics of the high Ac here at work (broady). Obs have been good for this hazy day, also seeing the development towards Ballarat/NW up on the obs deck.
brayden- Posts : 26
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Some quite chunky convection about still but awaiting the freshies this afternoon. The seabreeze could really kick off some enormous storms to the north and northwest as we go SEly later this afternoon...
Melbourne on the cusp, but it is so exciting to have some action about the place!!!
Melbourne on the cusp, but it is so exciting to have some action about the place!!!
Karl Lijnders- Posts : 1472
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
It's already fairly warmish outside and next Monday most suburbs are forecast to reach 35. Wait and see, but that's much earlier than last November's high of 35.4 on the 12th.
Bobman- Posts : 118
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
15 in Frankston dropped 5 degrees from 20 with a SW wind but doesnt seem to have affected any where else as yet
27 at Melbourne Airport....
27 at Melbourne Airport....
The Watto- Posts : 30
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
warm is has slowly begun to push down with the city now on about 24, the airport has been at the mid 20's for a bit now, with southern areas still at either, high teens or low 20's. Frankston's coolness really shows how cool the bay still is.
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Got nice convergence between those N and S winds and a nice temp gradient over the CBD.
Karl Lijnders- Posts : 1472
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
norfolk wrote:Frankston's coolness really shows how cool the bay still is.
They only got to 35.9 when the rest of us suffered in 46/47 degrees on Feb 7. Even cooler down Phillip Island way thanks to the water.
Bobman- Posts : 118
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Moorabin Airport is about 24 which isnt that far from Frankston which is on 15 that is a big difference.. So if you drove from Frankston to Mentone there is about a 9 degree difference
The Watto- Posts : 30
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Pretty impressive temp differences on the coast. Nearly 10 degrees diff between bayswater and frankston. Not sure what that'll do to the storms later tonight. Beautiful day here. Almost enough to get a tan if you get to be out in it. Expecting temps to reach 28 or even 29 here this afternoon currently on 26.6 according to my thermo.
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
Interesting that Avalon is only at 19, yet they're usually the ones who get the higher temps first.
Bobman- Posts : 118
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
The fields have started to bud in a matter of speaking. Wait another hour to find out where to go to i think.
Interestingly there is a small grass fire around here atm, and the smoke is blowing due North....
Interestingly there is a small grass fire around here atm, and the smoke is blowing due North....
rikjpool- Posts : 124
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Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
I have no info on that fire Rik.
Some isolated cells appearing in VIC now. One encroaching the border near Echuca whilst another firing up over Mt. Buller.
As good as today looks, tomorrow looks far superior IMO!
Some isolated cells appearing in VIC now. One encroaching the border near Echuca whilst another firing up over Mt. Buller.
As good as today looks, tomorrow looks far superior IMO!
Re: Victoria: Thunderstorm Outbreak. October 28th-November 3rd 2009
It has begun! Cu build up to NE/N/NW of here. Once it pops
brayden- Posts : 26
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