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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Australis(Shell3155) on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:07 am

Went for a drive around seems to be just a little patch that is bad, just so happens we call that little patch home, along underwood road quiet a number of big big branches down, makes me wonder about the railway line being a perfect path. Neighbor mentioned Boronia Road being bad so must be east of Stud Road.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  AmaroK on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:13 am

Well i missed my early alarm as well, but driving through Boronia on the way to work (using back roads) Even after the SES has obviously been through there, you can see how much the winds have effected the area. Underwood road was pretty messy, and work colleges in the area reported some sizable branches flying around the place last night. Sadly didn't have time to stop and take photos.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Sniper on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:24 am

Hope those in Boronia and surrounds only received property damage and no injuries!!

As for peak winds, Hogan Island peaked at 156kmh whilst the Prom clocked in at 135kmh.

As for today, winds to 40kts as this next front in much further south and wont pass thru Bass Strait. This one is going to smack Tassie hard!!

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Johnno on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:37 am

Yeah we may of seen the worst of the winds for now they will pick up gradually through this afternoon but ease again slightly this evening the worse of it was yesterday todays front is further South but the westerlies are very tight in and around that front so good luck to the islands on Bass Straight & Tassie.


Going by the pics seems like alot of damage was done we were warned by the BOM and SES & Media, sometimes they go over the top but must say the warnings warrented the outcome this time just hope no one has been hurt.

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  jonesy on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:42 am

Hi all,first post. Long time reader of the 'other' forum,love reading everyone's analysis. I know nothing about the specifics of weather,but enjoy the statistics and radars and what not. Lived in the NT for 4 years and loved watching the radar and storms up there.

Anyhow ,a little bit of the NT hit Boronia last night. Unfortunately I missed it all at work,just came home to see the mess. We lost a few trees out the front,gum trees were smashed,and two of the sheds got damaged. Apparently it all happened in a 30 second burst...the letter box was first to get uprooted,then the trees followed! Went for a walk this morning,there's a bit of damage to a few houses in damaged roofs and gutters

Couple of photo's below

P.S- Thanks for the Pm John,I tried to reply but it said your mail box was full.





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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Karl Lijnders on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:43 am

Agree John!!

Winds to around 40 knots here.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Piggy on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:49 am

Mount Evelyn is pretty bad.

This is what 90% of Mt Evelyn looks like. (some bad pic's but you get the idea)
















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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Karl Lijnders on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:53 am

WOW!!! Those winds would have been near 130kmh!!!
What roads are these???
Nice work Jonesy - welcome!!

And Mt Evelyn in parts is sheltered!!!!
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  James on Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:55 am

Well, i was stuck in the dallas brooks hall most of yesterday on set as they were filming....so i missed all the events of yesterday...althought it was so windy at one point the catering tent was just about being lifted off the ground and peoples dinners flying away!

When i got home late at night, i thought it was very "DARK" in my area...and noticed a lot of trees down - then saw there was no power when i walked in and was madly trying to find some candles

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  jonesy on Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:08 am

Karl Lijnders wrote:WOW!!! Those winds would have been near 130kmh!!!
What roads are these???
Nice work Jonesy - welcome!!

And Mt Evelyn in parts is sheltered!!!!

Thanks Karl.
We're on Boronia road. Damage almost starts two doors down from us,300 meters Boronia side of Scoresby road. Get's worse as you go up the hill towards Boronia. I don't think we compare though looking at the Mt Evelyn pics above
I'm dissapointed I missed the gust,would of been great to witness Laughing .
The suburbia background noise now is chainsaws...very post cyclone feel to it.

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Johnno on Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:21 am

Welcome Jonesy! Very Happy Sorry my inbox must be full will clear that later. Glad you can join us thanks for the pics! Hopefully we don't see wind like that for a while but sometimes September and October can be worse hopefully not this year

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Guest on Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:08 am

8.5mm yesterday on top of 13mm Monday so it been a good couple of days, windy and sunny this morning with cloud starting to increase now.

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Karl Lijnders on Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:30 am

Gusts to 50 knots down in Geelong presently. Winds starting to really pick up now at times, rattling the windows and roaring along the rooftop.

Another wild afternoon me thinks Smile
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  firestorm on Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:53 am

i cant beieve its windier today then yesterday and its pretty constant atm! 12mm last night Very Happy 84mm for the month that already 20mm above the average and in getting within sight of the yearly average only 50mm behind were i should be Very Happy

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Karl Lijnders on Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:09 pm

Winds are pretty strong in parts currently - particularly down along the Bellarine Peninsula. 40-55kt winds widespread there.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Lily on Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:39 pm

Welcome Jonesy Very Happy

Shocked at your pics, Piggy! From what you were saying earlier today though, it's in very specific areas along Birmingham Rd and up at the roundabout, not a generalised, widespread area of damage in Mt Evelyn? Glad you and the family are safe and ok, I was worried about you for a while there (until I remembered to check my mobile Rolling Eyes tongue ).

I had appointments up around Montmorency area today, quite alot of debris around and all over the road (twigs/leaves/smaller branches) and evidence of a few trees down to the sides of the road. One client I saw was telling me he arrived home last night to find his neighbour's entire pergola roof sitting on his driveway!

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Sniper on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:26 pm

Avalon just clocked in a 45kt gust. Just a mere zephyr compared to last night Razz

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Karl Lijnders on Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:22 pm

Just in Boronia surveying the damage and there is still a fair bit of tree damage around.. Especially the southern side of Boronia rd east if Scoresby rd and along the northern end of Forest Rd.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Karl Lijnders on Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:10 pm

I just got back from Boronia surveying the damage and trying to trace a cause of the damage.

My understanding at assessing the damage, it was mostly just before the major rainfall hit with most of the trees snapped either halfway up or uprooted, facing in a SE direction. That to me suggests NW winds rather than the W change.

Second the damage region amplifies dramatically as you edge up the hill past the fire station eastbound on Boronia road. Most of the swamp gums along northern side of Boronia road after crossing Scoresby road have had some sort of damage done to them. A little further up there is a reserve with I would estimate 12 large pine trees. These trees are about 30-40m tall and 4 of them have been snapped halfway up. They would be about 80 years old as well and can bend in the wind so the winds would have been in the vicinity of 130-150kmh in the region there. I have surveyed the damage at The Gap in QLD a month after the storm ripped through, there are similarities, but that storm was on a much much larger scale, however the one thing I noticed was the pine trees there were also snapped halfway up as well in a similar fashion.

Paton Cres, Valerie St and Narcissus Av are all complete warzones, SES crews still in the street cleaning up and making the buildings that are damaged by falling trees safe. I counted about 2 dozen houses significantly damaged in the Boronia region, however the major cluster is down around the Paton Cres region. Most of the trees, whether big or small have had damage to them. I saw mostly gums snapped or uprooted in this region, and these trees can take a fair gale. This is a windy region and to have whole trees uprooted like that again suggests to me that winds were in the 130-150kmh range.

There was no sign of tornadic activity, moreso just very strong straight line winds ahead of a tremendous amount of rainfall.

I am just stunned that there were no serious injuries with the amount of houses damaged and people on Boronia road with trees coming down everywhere in these conditions. An amazing site.

I am going to try and get to Lilydale as well at some stage and Mt Evelyn, but all those regions to the ENE of Boronia exibited tree damage in SES reports.

Here locally I was about 2 minutes away probably from being blasted from those conditions, luckily we cut our big trees down!!!
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  rikjpool on Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:44 pm

Went to Shepparton for work today. A couple of decent pockets of damage around the place. Just north of Rushworth there was evidence of 10 trees down across the road in a 200meter stretch, interestingly laying NE.

Another area of interest was just north of Tooleen where once again there was a simular stretch of road and extended into paddocks for around 500meters with trees not only uprooted but large limbs being snapped off the tops. No evidence of twisting though, so once again striaght line winds I believe. Unfourtuantly there were also 2 cars in on the side of the road in Tooleen with smashed front windscreens and bonnets. Would not have liked to have been driving through a treed roadside thats for sure.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Johnno on Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:48 pm

Thanks Karl for all that info pity the circumstances of it all isn't good sounds like alot of damage has been done that way Karl we were lucky out this way I haven't seen to much damage yet

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Australis(Shell3155) on Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:52 pm

[quote="Karl Lijnders"]I just got back from Boronia surveying the damage and trying to trace a cause of the damage.

Paton Cres, Valerie St and Narcissus Av are all complete warzones,

well we were in rawlings avenue when this storm hit- a stones throw from Narcissus ave, my mother in law mentioned hardly any twiggs around this morning.
Council doesn't allow too many big trees to be cut around here.
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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  hillybilly on Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:43 pm

Bit of a fizza up here today after the last few days. A trace of rain, a bit of wind and a temperature that just keeps rising (11.1C when I last checked confused ). The air mass is just too dry in the low levels for us.

We are now under rather strong warm air advection, so our brief brush with winter is over. Should see some decent drizzle develop about the northeast in this set up and showers along the coast but the rest of us just get boring westerlies...

PS those with access take a look at EC for late next week - it's gone rather mad with 50mm+ falls on Friday across parts of Vic.

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  mick on Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:58 pm

Heres the drum.

A bloke rang the radio last night from Silvan, he is on top of a hill looking west. He saw " a mushroom cloud like ive never seen in my life, it was jet black on top and grey on the bottom, it almost looked like a jellyfish". This was just before 5pm.

Now what sort of cell does that sound like and how does the damage relate to it?

Off ya go karl!

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Re: Victoria: Cold Outbreak. Series of Strong Cold Fronts. August 23rd - 28th 2009

Post  Malleefarmer on Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:22 pm

In for a frost up here bugger it

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